Same thing as the other study:
1. Something God revealed to me (what I learned that was new)...
2. Something I need to mull over a bit (and pray through)...
3. Something I was strongly convicted about...
4. Something I can AMEN (or agree with)...
5. Other comments
Saturday, April 14, 2007
The Pursuit of Holiness
Let's use the questions that Wendy suggested as starter points for discussion:
1. Something God revealed to me (what I learned that was new)...
2. Something I need to mull over a bit (and pray through)...
3. Something I was strongly convicted about...
4. Something I can AMEN (or agree with)...
5. Other comments
1. Something God revealed to me (what I learned that was new)...
2. Something I need to mull over a bit (and pray through)...
3. Something I was strongly convicted about...
4. Something I can AMEN (or agree with)...
5. Other comments
Calvinism, Hyper-Calvinism and Armenianism
This will be an interesting study. It looks very simple and I'm sure the study will go quickly but we can talk about the basics of what the Scripture says about these three differing theological viewpoints. Let's just post under this post if we have a comment on this study.
Love Jules
Love Jules
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
Chapters 13-15
I thought to start a separate discussion on these chapters as they deal specifically with giving both to the poor and needy, to parachurch organization, to secular groups and to churches. I am amazed how thoroughly he is covering these areas.
Wendy, I think we are encountering the same challenges. One thing that I underlined and question-marked and agonized over is on page 198: "Why not choose to live at a particular income level and simply give everything above that to God?" And my notes all over it are: "How can I do this? How do I downsize? How can I be content with little when I've become accustomed to living with so much?" Wow, that just proves how right Alcorn is: "The more holdings we have on earth, the more likely we are to forget that we are citizens of another world, not this one, and that our inheritance lies there, not here." Ooh, how hard to let go!!! But doesn't this appeal to you in some way? I pray the Lord will work in our hearts with this one. I'm not sure how it will play out, perhaps in a different way, but to be content with a certain level of income, certain standard of living and nothing more - would be so freeing.
The most challenging and impacting section was the 40 questions to ask the Lord about. I read some of these to Anthony and you can practically see the daggers driving its point in to our hearts. I truly wish there was some way to let everyone know the importance of reading this book or at least going through these questions honestly and openly before the Lord. Wow wow wow. I'm rethinking everything! From how much I give, to the reason why we save and invest money, to my future inheritance from mom, to which organization I should be supporting using the Lord's money! I am just blown away by these questions.
I have to admit that chapter 14 is a bit difficult for me. Honestly, I don't have a deep burden for the poor and the lost. I have more concern for the lost than the poor. I don't want to go and talk to those who walk around mumbling to themselves, asking with rum-laced breath for a dollar while pushing their life possessions in a wobbly shopping cart. I DO want to minister to those in my church or among friends who are struggling financially or who are in need. I have no problems with that. I have grown up to withdraw from those who are truly poor and homeless. Secondly, I am getting more and more sympathetic toward those in other countries who are suffering but I guess I'm skeptical about the organizations who help them. But really, who am I to withhold support because I question whether everything will be spent for them and not toward furnishing the CEO with a cadillac. We are to give wisely, purposefully, and knowledgeably. That's what I get from these last few chapters. and then Trust God with the dispersion, the multiplying, the results. Where are the poor in my budget???? More challenges...
And finally, a comment on supporting secular organizations. He's right, what are we supporting with the Lord's money? first and foremost, we need to support the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The only thing that will bring eternal changes. I agree that for every secular org. doing one thing, there is a godly alternative doing the same thing. I will be more aware of this and pray that I will be more sensitive to this. I used to think it was good enough supporting anything that was non-profit but i'm starting to change my thinking. Nothing wrong with non-profit, just reconsidering how my limited giving would impact heaven more if I'm contributing to the cause of Christ.
Whew! I can't emphasize how much this book is challenging and changing me for the better! Thank You Lord!!!
Wendy, I think we are encountering the same challenges. One thing that I underlined and question-marked and agonized over is on page 198: "Why not choose to live at a particular income level and simply give everything above that to God?" And my notes all over it are: "How can I do this? How do I downsize? How can I be content with little when I've become accustomed to living with so much?" Wow, that just proves how right Alcorn is: "The more holdings we have on earth, the more likely we are to forget that we are citizens of another world, not this one, and that our inheritance lies there, not here." Ooh, how hard to let go!!! But doesn't this appeal to you in some way? I pray the Lord will work in our hearts with this one. I'm not sure how it will play out, perhaps in a different way, but to be content with a certain level of income, certain standard of living and nothing more - would be so freeing.
The most challenging and impacting section was the 40 questions to ask the Lord about. I read some of these to Anthony and you can practically see the daggers driving its point in to our hearts. I truly wish there was some way to let everyone know the importance of reading this book or at least going through these questions honestly and openly before the Lord. Wow wow wow. I'm rethinking everything! From how much I give, to the reason why we save and invest money, to my future inheritance from mom, to which organization I should be supporting using the Lord's money! I am just blown away by these questions.
I have to admit that chapter 14 is a bit difficult for me. Honestly, I don't have a deep burden for the poor and the lost. I have more concern for the lost than the poor. I don't want to go and talk to those who walk around mumbling to themselves, asking with rum-laced breath for a dollar while pushing their life possessions in a wobbly shopping cart. I DO want to minister to those in my church or among friends who are struggling financially or who are in need. I have no problems with that. I have grown up to withdraw from those who are truly poor and homeless. Secondly, I am getting more and more sympathetic toward those in other countries who are suffering but I guess I'm skeptical about the organizations who help them. But really, who am I to withhold support because I question whether everything will be spent for them and not toward furnishing the CEO with a cadillac. We are to give wisely, purposefully, and knowledgeably. That's what I get from these last few chapters. and then Trust God with the dispersion, the multiplying, the results. Where are the poor in my budget???? More challenges...
And finally, a comment on supporting secular organizations. He's right, what are we supporting with the Lord's money? first and foremost, we need to support the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The only thing that will bring eternal changes. I agree that for every secular org. doing one thing, there is a godly alternative doing the same thing. I will be more aware of this and pray that I will be more sensitive to this. I used to think it was good enough supporting anything that was non-profit but i'm starting to change my thinking. Nothing wrong with non-profit, just reconsidering how my limited giving would impact heaven more if I'm contributing to the cause of Christ.
Whew! I can't emphasize how much this book is challenging and changing me for the better! Thank You Lord!!!
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